Csaint422 wrotemust be extended warranty. I looked at the warranty my credit union offers and they exclude whole transfer case swap in their verbiage, unreal (Route 66) as well as any weatherstripping which is a common issue with these sunroofs lol FMLMines in shop now under warranty for it. 2020 M50 only 23,700 miles. Pretty sure it had minor symptoms around 9k miles when I got it.
crazyinp wroteBy the time you feel it and need a transfer case fluid change the damage is already happening or done. The severity varies case by case. The fluid change is just a bandaid by BMW just hoping it makes it less noticeable and delay the inevitable TC replacement.Wife's (45e) is currently at the dealer awaiting replacement transfer case. It started shuttering about 5 or so months ago. They did the transfer case fluid replacement per the TSB back in April. It felt better after couple hundreds miles, but few months later it started doing it again. Usually when the car has been driven for 30mins or so, and only in lower speed in either direction forward or reverse. It must be pretty common, as my dealer got approval for new transfer case after a day opening case with BMW
bayG05 wroteWow, total BS. Makes me worried now... And I just spent $7k on an extended warranty “just in case“ something like this happens after the factory warranty expires. So unless you've got new tires, it is rejected? Whatever BMWNA...I just want to chime in here, since I'm also experiencing the TC shudders in my 2022 X5 X40i .
I took my X5 in under warranty to get checked since it was shuddering (not too aggressive), but enough for me to notice while turning near full lock at slow speeds. Dealer confirmed the issue and replaced the fluid under warranty per SIB 27 02 20. this was 4 months ago.
I noticed the shudders are back, so I brought in the X5 to BMW of Fremont to get it checked again, and sure enough, the technician confirm its the TC again. so they placed the warranty claim to BMW corporate. Good thing I took the car in as I have 2 months and/or 600miles left on the factory warranty.
I got a call this morning that BMW denied my claim, and the reason is that the front and rear tire thread depth is slightly different..
it gets better..
The front tires are 9/32
The rear tires are 7/32
OEM installed by the BMW dealer.
both sets of tires are well within spec, and they are only 2/32 difference.
my mind is blown that BMW requires less than 2/32 thread wear, which seems quite aggressive and a BIG REACH to deny a claim. The car is also getting an oil change and tire rotation per regular maintenance.
what are your thoughts on this? (I don't mean to thread jack OP, will gladly move this to a new thread if needed, but i thought this would be a good place for this information if someone is in the same situation with the TC)
My service advisor is also baffled that this claim is being rejected and is trying to escalate.
When i called BMWNA, they stated i could not talk to the warranty department to get more info on the rejection reasoning, and i could only have my SA talk to the BMW warranty folks. BMWNA placed a claim for goodwill to see if they would cover this repair but no feedback yet.
I'm shocked they treat their customers like this
crazyinp wroteI'm in the same boat and will make an appointment with the dealership before my warranty is up in about 5,000 mi. It's a shame BMW will not address this from a design perspective.Wife's (45e) is currently at the dealer awaiting replacement transfer case. It started shuttering about 5 or so months ago. They did the transfer case fluid replacement per the TSB back in April. It felt better after couple hundreds miles, but few months later it started doing it again. Usually when the car has been driven for 30mins or so, and only in lower speed in either direction forward or reverse. It must be pretty common, as my dealer got approval for new transfer case after a day opening case with BMW
6SPDG82 wroteI'm on a square 20 setup and my transfer case is being replaced.Those that have had transfer case issues what size tires did your vehicle come with?
I’m wondering if the non-square setups are a bit more prone to this than those with square setup. (Square meaning Identical tires sizes front and back)
denaliman wroteBut then, is the replacement unit a fixed one or will it eventually need replacing? Is there a solid replacement unit?By the time you feel it and need a transfer case fluid change the damage is already happening or done. The severity varies case by case. The fluid change is just a bandaid by BMW just hoping it makes it less noticeable and delay the inevitable TC replacement.
Pottscb wroteNope same tc and the Russian roulette begins again lolBut then, is the replacement unit a fixed one or will it eventually need replacing? Is there a solid replacement unit?
bayG05 wroteWow, this is a pretty shocking post to readI just want to chime in here, since I'm also experiencing the TC shudders in my 2022 X5 X40i .
I took my X5 in under warranty to get checked since it was shuddering (not too aggressive), but enough for me to notice while turning near full lock at slow speeds. Dealer confirmed the issue and replaced the fluid under warranty per SIB 27 02 20. this was 4 months ago.
I noticed the shudders are back, so I brought in the X5 to BMW of Fremont to get it checked again, and sure enough, the technician confirm its the TC again. so they placed the warranty claim to BMW corporate. Good thing I took the car in as I have 2 months and/or 600miles left on the factory warranty.
I got a call this morning that BMW denied my claim, and the reason is that the front and rear tire thread depth is slightly different..
it gets better..
The front tires are 9/32
The rear tires are 7/32
OEM installed by the BMW dealer.
both sets of tires are well within spec, and they are only 2/32 difference.
my mind is blown that BMW requires less than 2/32 thread wear, which seems quite aggressive and a BIG REACH to deny a claim. The car is also getting an oil change and tire rotation per regular maintenance.
what are your thoughts on this? (I don't mean to thread jack OP, will gladly move this to a new thread if needed, but i thought this would be a good place for this information if someone is in the same situation with the TC)
My service advisor is also baffled that this claim is being rejected and is trying to escalate.
When i called BMWNA, they stated i could not talk to the warranty department to get more info on the rejection reasoning, and i could only have my SA talk to the BMW warranty folks. BMWNA placed a claim for goodwill to see if they would cover this repair but no feedback yet.
I'm shocked they treat their customers like this
bayG05 . Would love to hear what the latest is on this.
starlights wroteMy e70 did not have spacers - the TC failed at about 65k miles and was replaced under aftermarket warranty.Curious about the comment above - do the wheel spacers contribute towards early TC failure?
M Fiddy wroteYour hypothetical statement above is accurate from physics perspective and I agree with your assessment, however my counter argument against BMW’s stance to blame spacers would be that there are many OEM wheel options with high enough offset which push out the wheels similarly. From physics perspective both scenarios should have same effect on TC. No?My e70 did not have spacers - the TC failed at about 65k miles and was replaced under aftermarket warranty.
My F15 had spacers. The TC started to fail at about 85k miles - I traded out of it.
My current G05 does not have spacers and at 35k miles has just begun to display the very early signs of TC failure.
Hypothetically, a 40mm change in track (ie 20mm spacers) COULD impact the stress put on the TC during tight turns at parking lot speeds. The wider the track, the greater the speed differential between the inside and outside wheel in a turn.
bayG05 wroteDoes it say anywhere in the owners manual that tread wear differences between tires must be less than 2/32" to avoid mechanical damage to their crap designed transfer case (must include "crap designed" to be legally binding - lol)? Even if it did, this would be something not reasonably known to a consumer prior to purchasing the vehicle. Since it's not "normal" practice to require such minute differences between tires (not even for safety reasons), BMW is treading into dangerous territory should a lawyer be engaged to enforce the warranty. I suspect the lawyer would include claims of fraud in addition to the breach of warranty agreement.I just want to chime in here, since I'm also experiencing the TC shudders in my 2022 X5 X40i .
I took my X5 in under warranty to get checked since it was shuddering (not too aggressive), but enough for me to notice while turning near full lock at slow speeds. Dealer confirmed the issue and replaced the fluid under warranty per SIB 27 02 20. this was 4 months ago.
I noticed the shudders are back, so I brought in the X5 to BMW of Fremont to get it checked again, and sure enough, the technician confirm its the TC again. so they placed the warranty claim to BMW corporate. Good thing I took the car in as I have 2 months and/or 600miles left on the factory warranty.
I got a call this morning that BMW denied my claim, and the reason is that the front and rear tire thread depth is slightly different..
it gets better..
The front tires are 9/32
The rear tires are 7/32
OEM installed by the BMW dealer.
both sets of tires are well within spec, and they are only 2/32 difference.
my mind is blown that BMW requires less than 2/32 thread wear, which seems quite aggressive and a BIG REACH to deny a claim. The car is also getting an oil change and tire rotation per regular maintenance.
what are your thoughts on this? (I don't mean to thread jack OP, will gladly move this to a new thread if needed, but i thought this would be a good place for this information if someone is in the same situation with the TC)
My service advisor is also baffled that this claim is being rejected and is trying to escalate.
When i called BMWNA, they stated i could not talk to [...]
