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01-11-2026
Hello all,

We have decided to come back to the BMW brand after a break.Looking to get a Family car.Loved our 7 series and tried the new one out.In an Ideal world I would have chosen it but I prefer to just buy the car as I cant deal with car shopping every 3 years [ Lease].I don't think buying a 7 series any financial sense to me considering all the gizmo's in the new model.

We test drove the IX and loved it except the frameless doors and the Substandard seats.If it had the multi contour seats in it I would have signed on it right away.Test drove the X5 and felt that it ticked most of the boxes for my wife.The Multicontour seats in the X5 was why I am considering the X5.
Looking into a X5 40i.
I have a few questions about the options that X5 offers

1.Multicontour seats:Love them!literally the main reason I am considering the X5.The X5 I test drove ,didn't have ventilated seats,The SA says that the ventilated seats lose some cushioning ? Not sure how true this is.
We have ventilated seats on our Q7 and we rarely use them in the North east.Wouldnt want to get them if they compromise on the cushioning/comfort


2. DAPP: Is there away to get basic cruise control or ACC without opting for DAPP?

3.Airsuspension: My Q7 has it and we like it ,Def doesn't make it behave like a boat.We have used it quite often,Makes the car corner flat in sport mode and just makes the drive comfortable on choppy roads.Not sure how it works on the X5 though.I have a sports car for summer thrills and prefer a comfortable ride in the family car,,at the same token wouldn't want the air suspension to make the car feel wobbly/boatlike.

Would appreciate if someone with air suspension chip in.

4. Ordering time: SA told me its hard to get any discounts on a custom order as its a high demand car, which I don't believe .Is there hope for the Financing rates to drop in the coming months?Will probably look for a auto broker .

5.Buy the present Gen or wait for the next generation:I am in no rush to get a car right away.I know the present gen has matured well and it appears to be a safe buy, Besides I usually don't prefer buying first year models .SA mentioned that BMW is phasing out Multicontour seats and opting to multifunction seats in the next gen .Considering how the new X3 and 5 Series have turned out..I am little wary of waiting for the next gen X5.Will there be an overlap between when we can see the next gen reveal before placing an order on the present Gen X5?

If I decide to wait for the next gen x5 to mature, I probably plan to lease a Ix now and wait for 3 years.

Would appreciate any suggestions
01-11-2026
luvthestck wrote
Hello all,

We have decided to come back to the BMW brand after a break.Looking to get a Family car.Loved our 7 series and tried the new one out.In an Ideal world I would have chosen it but I prefer to just buy the car as I cant deal with car shopping every 3 years [ Lease].I don't think buying a 7 series any financial sense to me considering all the gizmo's in the new model.

We test drove the IX and loved it except the frameless doors and the Substandard seats.If it had the multi contour seats in it I would have signed on it right away.Test drove the X5 and felt that it ticked most of the boxes for my wife.The Multicontour seats in the X5 was why I am considering the X5.
Looking into a X5 40i.
I have a few questions about the options that X5 offers

1.Multicontour seats:Love them!literally the main reason I am considering the X5.The X5 I test drove ,didn't have ventilated seats,The SA says that the ventilated seats lose some cushioning ? Not sure how true this is.
We have ventilated seats on our Q7 and we rarely use them in the North east.Wouldnt want to get them if they compromise on the cushioning/comfort


2. DAPP: Is there away to get basic cruise control or ACC without opting for DAPP?

3.Airsuspension: My Q7 has it and we like it ,Def doesn't make it behave like a boat.We have used it quite often,Makes the car corner flat in sport mode and just makes the drive comfortable on choppy roads.Not sure how it works on the X5 though.I have a sports car for summer thrills and prefer a comfortable ride in the family car,,at the same token wouldn't want the air suspension to make the car feel wobbly/boatlike.

Would appreciate if someone with air suspension chip in.

4. Ordering time: SA told me its hard to get any discounts on a custom order as its a high demand car, which I don't believe .Is there hope for the Financing rates to drop in the coming months?Will probably look for a auto broker .

5.Buy the present Gen or wait for the next generation:I am in no rush to get a car right away.I know the present gen has matured well and it appears to be a safe buy, Besides I usually don't prefer buying first year models .SA mentioned that BMW is phasing out Multicontour seats and opting to multifunction seats in the next gen .Considering how the new X3 and 5 Series have turned out..I am little wary of waiting for the next gen X5.Will there be an overlap between when we can see the next gen reveal before placing an order on the present Gen X5?

If I decide to wait for the next gen x5 to mature, I probably plan to lease a Ix now and wait for 3 years.

Would appreciate any suggestions
1. Many say the ventilated seats are less comfortable but of course that doesn't mean they are not comfortable. For me personally I, or any of my passengers, have ever had the seats not be comfortable.

2. Adaptive cruise is only available with DAP. DAP is a must have option not only for the driving assistance features but also the extra safety features.

3. Suspension feel is a very personal perception so what one person thinks can be totally different than what you would. I have had air suspension and Adaptive M Suspension Professional and while there is a difference between the two I never felt my air suspension made it seem like a boat. It is the most comfortable ride you can get and it also gives you some sportiness when desired.

4. Do not walk but RUN away from that dealership. You should be getting about a 10% discount on custom orders. If you don't want to shop around yourself one of our resident brokers will be able to get you a good deal.

5. The G65, next gen X5, information is pretty well known from an exterior and interior point of view. Many folks are turned off by it and many seem to like. It is in no way related to the X3 or the 5 series so you can forget those. It will be Neue-Klasse based design using the CLAR platform. This forum has quite a few threads with spy shots and pics. You will also want to check out the iX3 as it will be closely related to that. https://g65.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1008
01-11-2026
TurtleBoy wrote
1. Many say the ventilated seats are less comfortable but of course that doesn't mean they are not comfortable. For me personally I, or any of my passengers, have ever had the seats not be comfortable.

2. Adaptive cruise is only available with DAP. DAP is a must have option not only for the driving assistance features but also the extra safety features.

3. Suspension feel is a very personal perception so what one person thinks can be totally different than what you would. I have had air suspension and Adaptive M Suspension Professional and while there is a difference between the two I never felt my air suspension made it seem like a boat. It is the most comfortable ride you can get and it also gives you some sportiness when desired.

4. Do not walk but RUN away from that dealership. You should be getting about a 10% discount on custom orders. If you don't want to shop around yourself one of our resident brokers will be able to get you a good deal.

5. The G65, next gen X5, information is pretty well known from an exterior and interior point of view. Many folks are turned off by it and many seem to like. It is in no way related to the X3 or the 5 series so you can forget those. It will be Neue-Klasse based design using the CLAR platform. This forum has quite a few threads with spy shots and pics. You will also want to check out the iX3 as it will be closely related to that. https://g65.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1008
Thanks... I am a little uneasy with the dealership too..They told me that they can't lock Lease rates on a custom order on a IX...so asking me to literally place an order and hope that the lease rates don't get worse by the time I take my delivery.


BTW , just checking ur Sig... Is that tartufo in your X5? The pic appears like tartufo but your build shows tanzanite/coffee
01-11-2026
luvthestck wrote
BTW , just checking ur Sig... Is that tartufo in your X5? The pic appears like tartufo but your build shows tanzanite/coffee
That pic was of my 19 40i and it was Phytonic/Cognac. My 23 M50i is tanzanite/coffee.
01-11-2026
I came out of a 2016 X5 xDrive 35i with standard suspension and only heated seats and it was very comfortable. I am now in a 2025 X5 50e with air suspension and multicontour seats. In my opinion, the seats are significantly more comfortable than my previous X5 as is the suspension. No "boat" feel at all just nicely weighted control. For me, it is the best of all worlds.
01-11-2026
Just a couple of comments………the ventilated seats are comfortable and we use them often here in the south. The massage seats may be less comfy to some because of the mechanism and they are very subtle. Not worth the $1k. And as TB said your dealer is lying to you. 10% dealer discount plus incentives (loyalty, military, etc) is the norm. A broker will do the legwork for you and have it delivered to you or arrange for PCD. Best of luck.
01-11-2026
TurtleBoy wrote
1. Many say the ventilated seats are less comfortable but of course that doesn't mean they are not comfortable. For me personally I, or any of my passengers, have ever had the seats not be comfortable.

2. Adaptive cruise is only available with DAP. DAP is a must have option not only for the driving assistance features but also the extra safety features.

3. Suspension feel is a very personal perception so what one person thinks can be totally different than what you would. I have had air suspension and Adaptive M Suspension Professional and while there is a difference between the two I never felt my air suspension made it seem like a boat. It is the most comfortable ride you can get and it also gives you some sportiness when desired.

4. Do not walk but RUN away from that dealership. You should be getting about a 10% discount on custom orders. If you don't want to shop around yourself one of our resident brokers will be able to get you a good deal.

5. The G65, next gen X5, information is pretty well known from an exterior and interior point of view. Many folks are turned off by it and many seem to like. It is in no way related to the X3 or the 5 series so you can forget those. It will be Neue-Klasse based design using the CLAR platform. This forum has quite a few threads with spy shots and pics. You will also want to check out the iX3 as it will be closely related to that. https://g65.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1008
Possibly going to the X5 myself when current X3 lease is up in a few months, I just don't like the X3 style unfortunately. It is mainly my wife's ride, she NEVER uses cruise control and despises any wheel shake for lane correction and has me mute these features or minimize whenever possible. In my case, is DAP useless? I don't want to spend the $ if it won't be used.
01-11-2026
Artdnj wrote
Possibly going to the X5 myself when current X3 lease is up in a few months, I just don't like the X3 style unfortunately. It is mainly my wife's ride, she NEVER uses cruise control and despises any wheel shake for lane correction and has me mute these features or minimize whenever possible. In my case, is DAP useless? I don't want to spend the $ if it won't be used.
Sounds like it. If you turn off all the safety features and don't use cruise control.
01-11-2026
Artdnj wrote
Possibly going to the X5 myself when current X3 lease is up in a few months, I just don't like the X3 style unfortunately. It is mainly my wife's ride, she NEVER uses cruise control and despises any wheel shake for lane correction and has me mute these features or minimize whenever possible. In my case, is DAP useless? I don't want to spend the $ if it won't be used.
Lane keeping is separate from DAP so that wouldn't come into play. If the cruise control would never be used then it would be down to whether you think the safety features would be worth it. The would be the side collision avoidance, Evasion Assistant and Front Cross Traffic Alert. You should also keep in mind though that we have had many members say they would never use the driving assistance features of DAP and once they tried it they became regular users. If it was me, I would get it for her.
01-11-2026
luvthestck wrote
Hello all,

We have decided to come back to the BMW brand after a break.Looking to get a Family car.Loved our 7 series and tried the new one out.In an Ideal world I would have chosen it but I prefer to just buy the car as I cant deal with car shopping every 3 years [ Lease].I don't think buying a 7 series any financial sense to me considering all the gizmo's in the new model.

We test drove the IX and loved it except the frameless doors and the Substandard seats.If it had the multi contour seats in it I would have signed on it right away.Test drove the X5 and felt that it ticked most of the boxes for my wife.The Multicontour seats in the X5 was why I am considering the X5.

Just to add the contour seats in the X5 w/out cooling are more comfortable. I sat in both w/ cooling and without and the regular contours do have more padding(are a bit more "plush") and I would have signed up for them 100% if I was getting the 40i but had no choice as the contours w/ heated/cooling was standard. On the DAPP, even if you never use the adaptive cruise(works great Btw), self driving (real good also), etc, you can't get the other safety features because they are left out of the car unless you get the Dapp package. So you may need to look at it from both sides as it's not cut & dry. Also, I can't stand the interior of what the new class of X5 will look like via the Ix3 interior(looks like a tesla to me!) so I went with the 2026 as it looks great inside/out and not having to worry about 1st year gremlins was another factor as well.
01-11-2026
I got 9.5% off on my special order and not sure it mattered but it's an individual paint. I was shooting for 10% off they countered at 9.5% and I was content with that since the dealership is real close to me. I could've gotten 10% at a dealership a couple hours away but preferred to stay local. I'm hearing a lot lately some are getting more than 10% but maybe a point or two more. 13% is a stretch. I doubt you'll get that on a special order. Really depends on the dealer. Be happy with 10% as that's a pretty big discount.
01-12-2026
TurtleBoy wrote
Lane keeping is separate from DAP so that wouldn't come into play. If the cruise control would never be used then it would be down to whether you think the safety features would be worth it. The would be the side collision avoidance, Evasion Assistant and Front Cross Traffic Alert. You should also keep in mind though that we have had many members say they would never use the driving assistance features of DAP and once they tried it they became regular users. If it was me, I would get it for her.
I'll have to ook into the safety features because I prioritize that, thx
01-12-2026
luvthestck wrote
1.Multicontour seats:Love them!literally the main reason I am considering the X5.The X5 I test drove ,didn't have ventilated seats,The SA says that the ventilated seats lose some cushioning ? Not sure how true this is.

True… We have intentionally ordered two X5s with multi-contour seats, but without seat ventilation and I can definitely tell a difference in the padding between those that we have ordered with seat ventilation. A good bit more comfortable for me at 5’11” 140 lbs (boney).


4. Ordering time: SA told me its hard to get any discounts on a custom order as its a high demand car, which I don't believe.

Total lie… we acquired 10% off MSRP on a priority 1 (customer order).

5.Will there be an overlap between when we can see the next gen reveal before placing an order on the present Gen X5?

No… not for customer orders (priority 1). The G05 is scheduled to end 07/26. G65 production is scheduled to begin 08/26. Once the G65 is on the ground at dealers there is bound to be leftover G05s remaining in inventory. Depending on how bad the G65 is those remaining G05s may sell quickly? We already know iDrive X with Panoramic Vision will be in the G65 as well as everything else moving forward.
See above ⬆️ My answers in blue.. ID 10 below. ⬇️
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01-12-2026
luvthestck wrote
Thanks... I am a little uneasy with the dealership too..They told me that they can't lock Lease rates on a custom order on a IX...so asking me to literally place an order and hope that the lease rates don't get worse by the time I take my delivery.
Placed an order for an X5 in September and picked in November last year. The dealership agreed to 10% off MSRP but wouldn't let me lock in rates or incentives, which I thought was strange since many at the time were locking in rates. In any case, come November when my vehicle was ready for pick up, the rates had dropped to 0.9% and I was able to get the lower rate and full loyalty credit as well on top of 10% off MSRP.

So, give it a gut check and go for it, but if you are uncomfortable, reach out to the brokers here.
01-12-2026
luvthestck wrote
Hello all,

We have decided to come back to the BMW brand after a break.Looking to get a Family car.Loved our 7 series and tried the new one out.In an Ideal world I would have chosen it but I prefer to just buy the car as I cant deal with car shopping every 3 years [ Lease].I don't think buying a 7 series any financial sense to me considering all the gizmo's in the new model.

We test drove the IX and loved it except the frameless doors and the Substandard seats.If it had the multi contour seats in it I would have signed on it right away.Test drove the X5 and felt that it ticked most of the boxes for my wife.The Multicontour seats in the X5 was why I am considering the X5.
Looking into a X5 40i.
I have a few questions about the options that X5 offers

1.Multicontour seats:Love them!literally the main reason I am considering the X5.The X5 I test drove ,didn't have ventilated seats,The SA says that the ventilated seats lose some cushioning ? Not sure how true this is.
We have ventilated seats on our Q7 and we rarely use them in the North east.Wouldnt want to get them if they compromise on the cushioning/comfort


2. DAPP: Is there away to get basic cruise control or ACC without opting for DAPP?

3.Airsuspension: My Q7 has it and we like it ,Def doesn't make it behave like a boat.We have used it quite often,Makes the car corner flat in sport mode and just makes the drive comfortable on choppy roads.Not sure how it works on the X5 though.I have a sports car for summer thrills and prefer a comfortable ride in the family car,,at the same token wouldn't want the air suspension to make the car feel wobbly/boatlike.

Would appreciate if someone with air suspension chip in.

4. Ordering time: SA told me its hard to get any discounts on a custom order as its a high demand car, which I don't believe .Is there hope for the Financing rates to drop in the coming months?Will probably look for a auto broker .

5.Buy the present Gen or wait for the next generation:I am in no rush to get a car right away.I know the present gen has matured well and it appears to be a safe buy, Besides I usually don't prefer buying first year models .SA mentioned that BMW is phasing out Multicontour seats and opting to multifunction seats in the next gen .Considering how the new X3 and 5 Series have turned out..I am little wary of waiting for the next gen X5.Will there be an overlap between when we can see the next gen reveal before placing an order on the present Gen X5?

If I decide to wait for the next gen x5 to mature, I probably plan to lease a Ix now and wait for 3 years.

Would appreciate any suggestions
Where are are you located in the Northeast? I can make a recommendation in MA that should be able to get you a favorable discount on a custom order. If not it is highly recommended to order through a broker. We factory-ordered at the end of September and took delivery within three weeks.

We came from a Q7, so might be able to provide some guidance on that subject as well...
01-13-2026
SeekTheFinest wrote
Where are are you located in the Northeast? I can make a recommendation in MA that should be able to get you a favorable discount on a custom order. If not it is highly recommended to order through a broker. We factory-ordered at the end of September and took delivery within three weeks.

We came from a Q7, so might be able to provide some guidance on that subject as well...
I would be interested in your comparison Q7 to X5.
01-13-2026
LDT wrote
I would be interested in your comparison Q7 to X5.
We purchased a Q7 in 2016, when Audi redesigned the vehicle. It was a factory order and built to specification, which was essentially a Premium Plus 3.0T with the warm weather package (ventilated seats, sun shades, etc.). We drove the car for 9 years and 95,000 miles. Overall, the car proved to be quite reliable. The 3.0 supercharged engine had good acceleration, and on long road trips would get 25+ MPG. We dealer maintained the car, utilizing Audi Care for the life of ownership, only having to replace the brakes once and the tires twice. Overall, we thought the car aged well. Certainly, the new model years moved to more digital platforms with the touch screens, but we never felt the vehicle was aged. We only looked at replacing the Q7 when we started to have issues with the exhaust system (specifically around it developing holes), and were told by the dealership that we may need to start replacing parts due to the age of the vehicle. Overall, the build quality of the Audi was excellent, the construction was solid, and it was a practical vehicle for our family with a third row when we needed it in a pinch. In 2017, we paid $64k for Q7 utilizing the discount program through Audi Club of North America, which was, at the time, great since the vehicle was new to the market and discounts weren't really being offered (It got us 6% off MSRP)

When we started looking to replace the Q7, we weren't really focused on buying another German. I did look at the Audi A6 Allroad, since an RS6 was out of the budget, but I couldn't really get past the price tag. The 2026 A6 Allroad was going to be close to $80k for the trim level we wanted, and in September 2025, when we were shopping, they weren't allowing factory orders. After cross-shopping Lexus (TX 350+) and Honda (Passport), we decided to take a look at the X5. My wife has a 2023 X1 that we purchased sight unseen when they were initially released, and we liked the interior of that vehicle. On paper, in addition to the X5, we also considered the X3 m50, but the interior really left a lot to be desired, so that was not a real option.

Due to forums on Bimmerpost, we knew that BMW was willing to aggressively discount the X5, so with a prevailing discount and the subvented interest rates from BMWFS, we could justify looking at an X5. Our vehicle was a factory order, $82k sticker, which, when all the discounts and incentives were taken into account, came in around $71k. Compared to the Q7 at $64k, an extra $5k after almost 10 years was not too bad.

Overall, I would say the power band on the BMW is obviously much better than the Q7. It has around 40 extra HP, though I know they talk about both manufacturer understating their power numbers.

Interior fit and finish is comparable in both vehicles. I do like the matte trim option in the X5, due mainly to the fact that it's not shiny. We have cognac sensafin seats, multi-contour, with obviously much more adjustability, so that is nice.

The structural build quality of the 2017 Q7 was definitely better. The vehicle felt more solid, especially the doors. I do notice the X5 definitely sits higher than the Q7. Overall, the length is shorter on the X5, since it doesn't have the third row, but the interior space seems similar.

One thing I do miss about my Q7 is the camera system. We don't have the parking assistance package in the X5, so we have no front camera, only the sensors. This is one thing I really liked about our Q7. When pulling into the garage, I could see what was in front of me, so as not to hit things. Overall, both vehicles are great. They are both practical performance machines. We have only had the X5 for about 3 months (2,500 miles), so we will see how it holds up.

Overall, the Q7 was a great family vehicle. I wish the resale value on them were a little better. We got about $10k on trade for the 2017 Q7 with 95,000 miles. The dealership brokered it out of state, and it ended up selling for around $16.5k. Not great, but the vehicle did have a minor on the CarFax, and we had been given $5,000 for diminished value 7 years earlier, so $15k on trade was not bad (23.5% of original MSRP)

Our X5 is Manhattan Green with Cognac seats, MSport, Climate Control Pkg, Premium. This build got us everything we wanted from a looks perspective (specifically painted calipers, blacked out trim), which we wouldn't have been able to get in a new Q7. It has the horsepower we wanted, decent gas mileage, and kept us in a prestige brand. We still have to contend with the German brand depreciation, but cars are not appreciating assets, so we are ok with that.
01-13-2026
Really just depends on where you live for those sweet 10% discounts. When we bought ours, it was about 9% off for our custom order X5 M60i but had to go through a broker for that. Our local dealer, like yours OP, would not entertain a discount on a custom order. They want to move their inventory first.
01-13-2026
SeekTheFinest's user avatarSeekTheFinest Nice write up. Thanks. I had a ‘20 A6 Prem Plus and it was trouble free. Enjoy your X5.
01-14-2026
Our loaded 2018 Q7 served us very well too. Very Well built, 80K miles, dealer maintained,No squeaks or rattles even on the day we unloaded it.Never gave us a problem.The maintenance was just getting expensive.@ 80k on the odometer dealer recommended all 4 brake rotors to be changed and there was a squeal from the wheel.Dealer said it was a wheel bearing..got quoted 6k for everything.We were hoping to keep it a little longer but didn't see a value in extending the ownership and bleed money.

Briefly considered the all road but was sad to see wagons more expensive than SUV in NA.
We got 18K for it and by escaping the repair, we perhaps saved 6K more.Still miss it.I am looking to find a good alternative and am considering an X5 or an IX.Like the seats and range on the X5,prefer the tech and Silence on IX.
01-14-2026
luvthestck wrote
Our loaded 2018 Q7 served us very well too. Very Well built, 80K miles, dealer maintained,No squeaks or rattles even on the day we unloaded it.Never gave us a problem.The maintenance was just getting expensive.@ 80k on the odometer dealer recommended all 4 brake rotors to be changed and there was a squeal from the wheel.Dealer said it was a wheel bearing..got quoted 6k for everything.We were hoping to keep it a little longer but didn't see a value in extending the ownership and bleed money.

Briefly considered the all road but was sad to see wagons more expensive than SUV in NA.
We got 18K for it and by escaping the repair, we perhaps saved 6K more.Still miss it.I am looking to find a good alternative and am considering an X5 or an IX.Like the seats and range on the X5,prefer the tech and Silence on IX.
Stick with the X5 range and the tech is much the same as the iX at least in the LCI.
01-14-2026
I just left a dealership in the Northeast and for a new order MSRP 80,950 vehicle (almost all options but regular paint and wheels) that I'm financing at 2.99% I got 3% off MSRP plus another $1k for BMW loyalty (from BMW) and another $3K for military (my father). I bought from them 12 years ago and they have good service. The sales manager explained to me that their margin on all cars and across all dealers is 5.5% and out of that they need to pay a bit back to the dealership. He showed me a factory invoice for a similar X5 and I can see the diff between the MSRP and wholesale is 5.5%. He said at the end of the year there are additional things that expand that margin but at the start of the year (now) there isn't. He said that the $2K loyalty incentive one of the two Ks comes from BMW the other out of the dealers 5.5%.

So where are people coming up with these 10% numbers? Is that off MSRP and are you including the other $4K I mentioned for military and loyalty inside that 10%?