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I think it's completely unreasonable to haggle over something like this, that could potentially cost you $34.95 + shipping.
Besides, I am sure there is something else wrong with the car that you have not even noticed yet, that costs considerably more than a couple of plastic plugs, worth arguing over.
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azmiller1976 wroteWell, it is a preowned car, so there is bound to be something else.Curious, why would you think there is something else wrong with the car?
I bought mine out of Texas (front plate required), and I live in Florida, which does not require a front plate. I too have holes that need fixing.
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Even then, I have a feeling you’ll still find some problems.
azmiller1976 wroteJust for accuracy, there are no holes drilled when the front license plate holder is installed, it is just screwed in. The result is similar though.Thank you for your input I do appreciate it. I am out of state (that does require a front license plate), and I saw there was a license plate on the car after they posted the pictures on the website and sent me photos prior. No, I hadnt test drove it yet, for what that is worth in regards to posting about holes on a front bumper. What transpired, I questioned whether or not the plate had hooks that prevent the owner from having to "DRILL HOLES ON A $74k LUXURY CAR" , so to avoid having to question it, but apparently the owner DRILLED. Curious, why would you think there is something else wrong with the car?
As far as CPO is concerned, keep in mind it is mostly a marketing tool. While you do get an extra year of warranty it does not mean it is a perfect/like new vehicle.
azmiller1976 wroteLicense plate holes suck! That's why the non-hole approach to plate holders developed a decent market but if the car you're looking at already has them, than it is what it is. It's certainly not a CPO covered item as its not a mfg defect.Question I am wrestling with the dealer on to have addressed. If the X5 is being deemed to have CPO status, shouldn't these holes from a license plate be addressed, they are holes on a $50k luxury car is my take away. Whether you live in California or not, they are still holes when selling a used vehicle on a Mineral White M Sport Extended Shadowline trim. Any thoughts or experience with this, do I or should I have any leverage to have this corrected, new trim piece, a cosmetic credit? I appreciate any prompt input being that this is time sensitive. Thank you so much!
tooloud10 wroteExcept these are not random holes, they are intentional specifically placed holes for a purpose. The fact that the purpose is no longer required doesn't matter since once a hole is made, it's always there.I actually agree with the OP--I mean, I wouldn't want unnecessary holes on my new/used car either. For a buyer in a state that doesn't require front plates, this is really no different than a few random holes anywhere on the body of the vehicle, which nearly anyone would find unacceptable for a CPO vehicle.
I agree with you that I wouldn't want unnecessary holes in my car but the OP is not the original owner so you get what you get when you buy a pre owned car. Fortunately there are a couple ways of dealing with them.
M a r t y wroteFrom the OP's perspective they absolutely are just random holes in a car they're trying to buy; the fact that they served a purpose for the previous owner doesn't change anything for the next guy.Except these are not random holes, they are intentional specifically placed holes for a purpose. The fact that the purpose is no longer required doesn't matter since once a hole is made, it's always there.
I mean, by that logic a few holes in the middle of the dash to mount electronic equipment would definitely serve a purpose to the guy that drilled them, but anyone buying that car on the used market isn't going to pay the same as they would for one without the holes.
Yeah, I'd just tell the dealer that not replacing the part is a dealbreaker.I agree with you that I wouldn't want unnecessary holes in my car but the OP is not the original owner so you get what you get when you buy a pre owned car. Fortunately there are a couple ways of dealing with them.
azmiller1976 wroteI live in Illinois which requires a plate on the front. Don't assume the dealer is going to drill holes for the front plate. My BMW dealer does not drill holes unless the buyer wants the plates mounted when purchased new. I've said this before, I love my dealerThank you TooLoud10, thats exactly how I looked at it. Fortunately it is a simple DIY. I think California BMW dealerships need to consider incorporating that cosmetic credit or a parts voucher, if the buyer asks about the holes, its a write off for them and only makes them look good and makes the transition happen. Thank you for your input.
If I bought a used car or CPO, I wouldn't even ask about the holes in the bumper. It's just part of buying used
azmiller1976 wroteTo answer the OP question of should this be fixed under CPO inspection, does it give you leverage in a used car purchase negotiation, do you deserve a cosmetic credit? The answer is no. If you look through a CPO worksheet you will not see front license plate holes as a reason to fail CPO inspection.Question I am wrestling with the dealer on to have addressed. If the X5 is being deemed to have CPO status, shouldn't these holes from a license plate be addressed, they are holes on a $50k luxury car is my take away. Whether you live in California or not, they are still holes when selling a used vehicle on a Mineral White M Sport Extended Shadowline trim. Any thoughts or experience with this, do I or should I have any leverage to have this corrected, new trim piece, a cosmetic credit? I appreciate any prompt input being that this is time sensitive. Thank you so much!
They will just sell the car to the next guy if this is a deal breaker for you. If you are buying a used car and the previous owner was legally required to have a front plate, you can expect to see these holes drilled. That is different than the poster who equated this to a previous owner drilling holes in the interior dash for a phone mount. One was a legal requirement. The other was not. In any case, the dealer disclosed the condition of the front bumper and it is up to you to decide if that car is worth the price. I am sure if you asked for a $30 discount to close the deal to cover the cost of bumper plugs they would agree to that.
I did a lot of used car shopping this year looking for a CPO X5. I realized you can't be that picky shopping on the used market. It is hard to find a unicorn X5 and even if you do, it may not be the right price, and the dealer may not have any reason to lower the price due to high demand. If you want to spec your perfect X5 I would recommend buying new. They are offering great deals 10%+ off MSRP and aggressive financing rates. That is what I ended up doing.
tooloud10 wroteI get what you are saying but in terms of license plate holes, do not agree. Mounting front plates is mandatory in many states and although there are a number of methods to do that, a dealer will take the path of least resistance and many owners will too or they just don't care.From the OP's perspective they absolutely are just random holes in a car they're trying to buy; the fact that they served a purpose for the previous owner doesn't change anything for the next guy.
I mean, by that logic a few holes in the middle of the dash to mount electronic equipment would definitely serve a purpose to the guy that drilled them, but anyone buying that car on the used market isn't going to pay the same as they would for one without the holes.
Yeah, I'd just tell the dealer that not replacing the part is a dealbreaker.