This dial

john1200c · 05-06-2021, 02:19 PM

I posted this over in the idrive forum but thought it might be a more general question so I am reposting here:

See the picture below. In my current car, 2014 535i I have this dial. I find it very handy and use it a lot to make small adjustments to the temperature when climate is set to auto mode. I do not see this dial when I stare at the setup online on my soon to be delivered X5. Is the feature still available? If so I assume its somewhere in the idrive. Can somebody point me in the right direction? Sorry not sure why the picture posted sideways...

Thanks!

Helius · 05-06-2021, 02:27 PM

Using the button marked in the picture, will take you to the menu where you can adjust the same setting.

john1200c · 05-06-2021, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Helius

Using the button marked in the picture, will take you to the menu where you can adjust the same setting.

Thanks! So you would adjust on the screen?

Helius · 05-06-2021, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by john1200c

Thanks! So you would adjust on the screen?

Yes.

Here is a video to show you what the menu looks like:

john1200c · 05-06-2021, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Helius

Yes.

Here is a video to show you what the menu looks like:

Perfect! Thanks...

LexxM3 · 05-06-2021, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by john1200c

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Originally Posted by Helius

Yes.

Here is a video to show you what the menu looks like:

Perfect! Thanks...

It's not perfect. Well, the information supplied is, but the change in the BMW HVAC UX design is not. Having to navigate menus for that is a new safety and convenience detrimental anti-improvement anti-feature.

john1200c · 05-06-2021, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LexxM3

It's not perfect. Well, the information supplied is, but the change in the BMW HVAC UX design is not. Having to navigate menus for that is a new safety and convenience detrimental anti-improvement anti-feature.

Agreed. Call me old school but the dial works better for me...

Auricom · 05-06-2021, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by john1200c

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Originally Posted by LexxM3

It's not perfect. Well, the information supplied is, but the change in the BMW HVAC UX design is not. Having to navigate menus for that is a new safety and convenience detrimental anti-improvement anti-feature.

Agreed. Call me old school but the dial works better for me...

Many long-time BMW owners lamented the decision to remove the iconic air temperature blending dial - simple, convenient and accessible.

luckylingy · 05-06-2021, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Auricom

Many long-time BMW owners lamented the decision to remove the iconic air temperature blending dial - simple, convenient and accessible.

Completely agree; I miss those thumb wheels. But I also understand modern BMWs offer so many functions and adjustments that dashboard real estate has become extremely valuable. Those thumb wheels are among the latest victims (akin to the hand brake a generation ago).

FastMarkA · 05-06-2021, 05:48 PM

I love and embrace technology, but I'm also of the opinion the wheel did it better.

dream54ing · 05-06-2021, 06:11 PM

never knew or used this! I always set the temp i'm comfortable on and adjust by hitting the red up triangle or blue down triangle to raise/lower temp as needed.

am i missing something with the climate control on/off?

john1200c · 05-06-2021, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Auricom

Many long-time BMW owners lamented the decision to remove the iconic air temperature blending dial - simple, convenient and accessible.

Yup may work this into one of the "radio" buttons. A lot of work for what used to be a very simple task....

mitch57 · 05-07-2021, 01:40 AM

I see I'm not the only one that feels BMW made a poor decision with this implementation. https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...72&postcount=4

Dogmatick · 05-07-2021, 02:48 AM

The fact that there is fan and temperature control as buttons at all is exactly why I chose to order a 45e over its rivals. Volvo XC90 you can wait 90 seconds or more from startup to be able to turn the fan on waiting for the computer to boot up
Currently driving a Touareg in part because it has a Volume knob !
BMW could easily have made that AC Menu button an AC on off long press button as well, hmm I wonder if they could in a software update

sygazelle · 05-07-2021, 04:07 AM

I get that people are upset and rightfully so at BMW's decision to eliminate the manual red/blue wheel. I've been used to using that beautiful wheel for over 30 years of BMW ownership.

When my wife got her G05, this wheel was gone. I was expecting to hate the change and I loudly criticized the move. That said, I have to say that I'm used to the G05 the way it is and I don't miss the physical wheel at all. For me, the auto setting is so good that I almost never have to touch anything, and when I do, its the fan setting or the temperature a degree or two. Mostly, I leave it along and let the automatic setting do its thing.

I haven't even been compelled to go find the screen version of the wheel and change the setting.

Keep in mind I live in a pretty mild climate (Bay Area). For those of you who shovel snow or burn to a crisp in the heat where you live, I have no idea if the auto system handles the kind of extremes you face in your neck of the woods.

Chef NOLA · 05-07-2021, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by john1200c

Agreed. Call me old school but the dial works better for me...

This!

amphiprion · 05-07-2021, 06:47 AM

+1 here in missing the stratified air temperature control dial. I knew it was going away, and I thought maybe I wouldn’t miss it but I do. It’s not often, but there are just enough times that you want that extra cooling or heating to your face that I miss the quick adjustment you could get without changing the cabin temperature set point.

Also, as someone already said it was iconic for BMW interiors. Imagine Mercedes doing away with their door mounted seat controls.

-Vanguard- · 05-07-2021, 08:39 AM

What was the point of this dial anyway...

When set to auto, you could just increase the temp by a degree or two to achieve the same thing. Both this dial and the temp change were within arm's reach.

It never made any sense to me.

dream54ing · 05-07-2021, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

What was the point of this dial anyway...

When set to auto, you could just increase the temp by a degree or two to achieve the same thing. Both this dial and the temp change were within arm's reach.

It never made any sense to me.

i posted the same thing earlier, maybe it does something more that we dont know about

john1200c · 05-07-2021, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

What was the point of this dial anyway...

When set to auto, you could just increase the temp by a degree or two to achieve the same thing. Both this dial and the temp change were within arm's reach.

It never made any sense to me.

I don't think it changes the overall temperature setting in the car. I used to use it for example if I changed direction and now the sun is blaring down on me, I could scroll it a few clicks and cooler air would come out of the vents immediately whereas if I changed the temperature setting it would be more gradual. At least that's how I used it...

biterror · 05-07-2021, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

What was the point of this dial anyway...

When set to auto, you could just increase the temp by a degree or two to achieve the same thing. Both this dial and the temp change were within arm's reach.

It never made any sense to me.

The dial in my 500 series adjusts the air temperature for the center vents so you could have cooler/warmer air coming out of those while the rest of the car remained at the normal temperature. Makes sense to me. :-)

nZtiZia · 05-07-2021, 10:36 AM

that dial is sorely missed

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john1200c Lieutenant 246 Rep 528 Posts Drives: 21 X5 M50i Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	This dial I posted this over in the idrive forum but thought it might be a more general question so I am reposting here: See the picture below. In my current car, 2014 535i I have this dial. I find it very handy and use it a lot to make small adjustments to the temperature when climate is set to auto mode. I do not see this dial when I stare at the setup online on my soon to be delivered X5. Is the feature still available? If so I assume its somewhere in the idrive. Can somebody point me in the right direction? Sorry not sure why the picture posted sideways... Thanks! Attached Images
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dream54ing Captain 541 Rep 954 Posts Drives: 428xi F32- X5 X5 G05 -640i F06 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: ARIZONA iTrader: (0)	never knew or used this! I always set the temp i'm comfortable on and adjust by hitting the red up triangle or blue down triangle to raise/lower temp as needed. am i missing something with the climate control on/off?
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mitch57 Lieutenant Colonel 862 Rep 1,842 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X7 xDrive40i Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pacific Northwest iTrader: (0)	I see I'm not the only one that feels BMW made a poor decision with this implementation. https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...72&postcount=4
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Dogmatick Private First Class 41 Rep 104 Posts Drives: BMW X7 40D 2021 Join Date: May 2021 Location: London iTrader: (0)	The fact that there is fan and temperature control as buttons at all is exactly why I chose to order a 45e over its rivals. Volvo XC90 you can wait 90 seconds or more from startup to be able to turn the fan on waiting for the computer to boot up Currently driving a Touareg in part because it has a Volume knob ! BMW could easily have made that AC Menu button an AC on off long press button as well, hmm I wonder if they could in a software update
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sygazelle Brigadier General 18442 Rep 3,559 Posts Drives: 2014 328i M-Sport, 2019 X5 40i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	I get that people are upset and rightfully so at BMW's decision to eliminate the manual red/blue wheel. I've been used to using that beautiful wheel for over 30 years of BMW ownership. When my wife got her G05, this wheel was gone. I was expecting to hate the change and I loudly criticized the move. That said, I have to say that I'm used to the G05 the way it is and I don't miss the physical wheel at all. For me, the auto setting is so good that I almost never have to touch anything, and when I do, its the fan setting or the temperature a degree or two. Mostly, I leave it along and let the automatic setting do its thing. I haven't even been compelled to go find the screen version of the wheel and change the setting. Keep in mind I live in a pretty mild climate (Bay Area). For those of you who shovel snow or burn to a crisp in the heat where you live, I have no idea if the auto system handles the kind of extremes you face in your neck of the woods.
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amphiprion Second Lieutenant 209 Rep 285 Posts Drives: 2022 X5 45e MSport Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: California iTrader: (0)	+1 here in missing the stratified air temperature control dial. I knew it was going away, and I thought maybe I wouldn’t miss it but I do. It’s not often, but there are just enough times that you want that extra cooling or heating to your face that I miss the quick adjustment you could get without changing the cabin temperature set point. Also, as someone already said it was iconic for BMW interiors. Imagine Mercedes doing away with their door mounted seat controls.
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-Vanguard- Lieutenant Colonel 1302 Rep 1,543 Posts Drives: 2021 X6M Competition Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	What was the point of this dial anyway... When set to auto, you could just increase the temp by a degree or two to achieve the same thing. Both this dial and the temp change were within arm's reach. It never made any sense to me.
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