[BTWCD]

Originally Posted by swagon

Ok so what is the point of all them LWB models? Is the regular 5/X5 not big enough in the back or?

Yes I am afraid. X7 40i base(although with more base equipment compared to US spec) retails for 142.8k USD and X5 30Li Base retails for 86k USD in China, same thing goes for 525Li 54.8k/530Li 60.3k vs 740Li 131.1k. You can't "spend just a little more to get an X7 if you want more space".

It is logical move for most Chinese buyers to opt for LWB versions because such car is usually the family hauler if not the only car in the family(although rare because if you are going for a bmw premium model you would have at least one more cars in the family, this applies more to X1 and 3 series buyers), can't hurt to have more spaces in the back for family eh?

BMW attempts to use the local-Tiexi-produced LWB X5 to gain an advantage in the hot luxury SUV market, this means possible better quality, more luxury features, much less production time and less taxes on the car. And in the end, lots of Chinese buyers would consider the space as a priority when shopping for cars(possibly price, brand, and acceleration being next) as this is more of a large purchase than what is generally observed in the States.

Fun fact: A majority of X1 top-spec LWB sales in China are due to the fact of lacking rear-rooms in the RWD-not-LWBed X3.
I can go into more details if anyone here wanted to hear the stories but let's end here first

[Tallest]

Originally Posted by bjcarls

This should replace the X5 and then increase the X7 even more.

The only reason I didn't buy an X7 is because its too small. Would have loved to be back in a BMW.

Thats a good one!


This car has proportions of BMW X1 e84.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by redEYEjedi

I doubt that. M3 touring and an x5 are not the same.

Pretty sure that was sarcasm

[[/:\] GP9000]

Very tasteful mods, well done Sir!

The dimensions look a bit odd on the X5… but guess you get used to it.

[[/:\] GP9000]

Originally Posted by bjcarls

This should replace the X5 and then increase the X7 even more.

The only reason I didn't buy an X7 is because its too small. Would have loved to be back in a BMW.

Out of interest: What did you get then instead of X7? Everytime I see one I think is enourmous - for European measures at least.

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by [/:\] GP9000

Out of interest: What did you get then instead of X7? Everytime I see one I think is enormous - for European measures at least.

No problem. For size, we ended up with a Tahoe (not sexy, more expensive than it should be but functional and better interior than I thought).
We'll put 20,000 miles on it this year hauling kids around and hitting road trips. It's great but I miss the refinement of a BMW - hopefully in 4-5 years when the oldest is driving we can downsize. Which is why I keep checking back to see how people like the LCI.

For reference - quick google comparison.

Tahoe vs. X7
Front Head Room: 42.3 41.9
Front Legroom: 44.5 39.8
Front Shoulder Room: 66 60
Second-row Head Room: 38.9 39.9
Second-row Legroom: 42 37.6
Second-row Shoulder Room: 64.8 58.1
Third-row Head Room: 38.2 36.6
Third-row Legroom: 34.9 33.3
Third-row Shoulder Room: 62.7 47.9
Cargo Volume to Seat 1: 122.9 90.4
Cargo Volume to Seat 2: 72.6 48.6
Cargo Volume to Seat 3: 25.5 12.8

[YYYQQQ]

Glad to see people from China and join in this forums.

[Staszek]

Originally Posted by [/:\] GP9000

Out of interest: What did you get then instead of X7? Everytime I see one I think is enourmous - for European measures at least.

The X7 isn't really that big. Its longer than the X5 but its not huge. If you drive it (especially with the DHP) it drives really small.

Its shorter then the G12 750i I replaced. Its for people who want a bit more space and a bit more luxury than the X5 has to offer in the US.

If you really want space you need to go with the Escalade/Tahoe, Navigator, Grand Wagoneer type vehicle. They are much bigger.

[Flying Ace]

Wait there's a LWB X1 and a LWB X3?! This doesn't even make sense in my head

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by gpxluke

direct bolt on but u need to remove the air box which is bolted on the metal attaching frame that you need to use to bolt on the X5m front brace. I replace the airbox air inlet part with the FTP inlet pipe instead.

It looks yr g18 x5 has 4 cyl motor (perhaps b48 ?) this must make x5m brace retrofit easier than say the i6 b58 x5 ?

[gpxluke]

Originally Posted by YYYQQQ

Glad to see people from China and join in this forums.

i have been on the forum for couple years already...used to own a F3x ha...this ride is for the wife but the oem handling is a bit too comfy in my taste lol

[gpxluke]

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

It looks yr g18 x5 has 4 cyl motor (perhaps b48 ?) this must make x5m brace retrofit easier than say the i6 b58 x5 ?

yes its a 4 banger as its for the wife...i beleive it doesnt make a big diff on installing the x5m brace as its just bolt on without any modification except u need to change the intake inlet to remove the oem air reservoir. the front brace does make a big difference on cornering though

[gpxluke]

Originally Posted by PNWM50I

Looks great! I think KWV3 seems like the way to go for the best drop and performance changes. As for the rims, what sizing/offset? Never considered Enkei for BMW before but these look great for 20inch size.

its 20x10 et22 20x11 et15.

[gpxluke]

Originally Posted by Brandt51

Wheel and tire setup looks great. I like it.

What's this now? 10cm longer? What's that in American? An X7? Haha

yes 10cm longer than the g05 almost same wheel base as the x7 but the trunk space remains the same as the g05, just more leg room at the rear

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by gpxluke

yes its a 4 banger as its for the wife...i beleive it doesnt make a big diff on installing the x5m brace as its just bolt on without any modification except u need to change the intake inlet to remove the oem air reservoir. the front brace does make a big difference on cornering though

Good to know.

I retrofitted oem F8x m2c brace on my F87 OG m2 and it's definitely noticeable !!!

[gpxluke]

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Good to know.

I retrofitted oem F8x m2c brace on my F87 OG m2 and it's definitely noticeable !!!

I did the same thing to the F3x lol but i only did the aluminum brace but differences are already noticeable

[BTWCD]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

Wait there's a LWB X1 and a LWB X3?! This doesn't even make sense in my head

No LWB X3 right now as this is the reason some of the people goes to LWB fully-loaded X1 as the X1 being fwd-based, together with LWB gives more rear rooms which some might say larger than G05 X5. There is possibility that next-gen x3 would have an LWB as GLC-L and Q5L already exists.

They does make a sense especially in China, when you are buying an X1 surely you are not in the position to consider driving dynamics, and with your drive being much city driving/highway cruising I can't see the benefit of a short wheel base except the ease for parking. Such things matter more on say a 3 series, but some people wanted to have a 3 series while using that as 'family car', hence they would go for 3 series LWB—it makes their decision easier!

[MarcosLepre]

Originally Posted by P1

Agree! All the fives and tens of people who say they will buy the M3 Touring would want to buy this also I bet!

Originally Posted by P1

Agree! All the fives and tens of people who say they will buy the M3 Touring would want to buy this also I bet!

I don't think we need the long wheel base, but I do which the X5 was a bit bigger. For such a large SUV the back seat is a bit cramped. So a few more inches in the second row and a few more in the truck would be ideal. I don't see the need for a long and short but maybe one model that is just a tad bit longer.

[xueju1121]

Looking sharp! Especially the wheel and brake combo.

长轴距版就是香啊

[pharding]

Congrats. Looks beautiful!

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by swagon

Ok so what is the point of all them LWB models? Is the regular 5/X5 not big enough in the back or?

I ask that for all LWB models. Not just by BMW but also Audi and such.

[HS_01]

Originally Posted by gpxluke

It has 10cm longer wheel base comparing to the regular G05 X5

Nice Car…
Do you have any pics of the rear seats?
Second Row if possible….


Thanks…