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Car and Driver Calls the X5 M50i a Beast in Instrumented Test and Review
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I'm going to sound like a broken record if you've seen any of my other posts on this question but the X5's tragic flaw as an SUV may be its small payload capacity (849-871 lbs on the "tire and loading information" sticker on the door jamb across several 40i, 50i and M50i that I've looked at). An 849 lb payload capacity means the X5 can only carry 4 people plus luggage - or, if you're towing something at the 7,200 lbs capacity with a typical 10% tongue weight, then the driver can't weight more than 129 lbs! For context, every one of the X5's competitors has a payload capacity around 1500 lbs. (Range Rover Sport is 1,521 to 1,951 lbs, Q7 is 1,552 to 1,750 lbs, GLE is 1,434 to 1,532 lbs, Explorer is 1,433 to 1,815 lbs, etc.)
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We have been saying it on this board for a while.
I recently made a post in X5m forum - that did not sound as eloquently as "Car and Driver" article but says the same thing. Those M performance models are so good by BMW now - that unless you are tracking the car non stop - one does not need a full M on the street. I'm having a hard time persuading myself that i want an upgrade to x5M. It will loose some practicality and features but will it gain enough to compensate for it? Scary part - it is similar with M340 - it is that good. I definitely do not need a new M3 for the street after driving M340 for a year.. Aggressively driving M340 - am sideways in that car on every roundabout. My kids cal lit drifting car.. And then i can hand it over to my wife and she can commute to work in comfort without me worrying that she will spin out on every corner in the rear wheel drive M3. Since I have the track car - M performance is really where its at for the street. |
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Also - that M50 engine is a monster
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Can't imagine how she'd react to an M3.
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But why doesn't the US get the option of the 3rd row in the M50i? It's available in other markets with the 3rd row and would make this a perfect option. I'm guessing it's been done solely to push X7 sales...
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I drive an M2 competition and the suspension is taut. It makes you feel good going over bumps and keeps the car balanced and in control. Not like 3 series, shakes up the whole chassis and feels like the car is not on rails. M3 competition will be very good and your wife might actually like gliding the car over bumps.
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There was no steering shaft that connects to a pinion gear that moves the rack to mechanically convert the rotational movements of the steering wheel into linear motions necessary to turn the wheels. Better?
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Or maybe it does, that thing above the 2 in the diagram?
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Does the M50i have heavier steering than the 50i M Sport? I've driven a 40i (which I did not like) and an M50i (which I found acceptable relative to my E70 50i). I would hate to buy a 50i M Sport and be disappointed with the steering...
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You're option on X5 with M Sport appearance (ZMP) is X5 xDrive40i or X5 M50i. ZMP package on xDrive50i was discontinued when X5 M50i was launched. 2020 xDrive50i is ONLY available in xLine. There maybe some leftover new or used 2019s xDrive50i with ZMP on dealer lots though rare depending on market.
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Even with the IAS option, that's simply referring to an additional planetary gear and electric motor attached to the traditional rack and pinion setup. So you still have a physical, mechanical connection to the front wheels. That autoblog article is simply referring to the feeling, which according to them is close to the feeling you get in a steer-by-wire setup in the sense that road feel is minimized (or in steer-by-wire's case, completely non-existent). All that aside though, I was comparing my Infiniti's steer-by-wire setup to my M340i for my non-complaints about the 3 series when responding to buckybadger. My G05 is for comfort family hauling anyway
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I actually have my car in my possession now, so I can speak intelligently about it.
The REASON I bought an M50i was because I'm a car enthusiast, but I also needed a "softer" car than my 340i MPPSK (Bad neck/back)... and more family space is always good too. The roads in Belgium are worse than any country I've ever been to... and I've been to a lot. (over 30). The X5M "looks" amazing... it performs amazing for an SUV, no doubt. But, the suspension is hard as a rock. All M cars are. Why buy a "luxury SUV", only to have all the luxury removed with a harsh suspension? Why buy a "Track SUV".... when it's not EVER going to perform like a sportscar on the track, due to simple physics? The M50i is the best of both worlds.... and it's VERY good at both. I absolute LOVE the air suspension. I don't find it "floaty" at all. I've been reading comments about all the hate toward the air suspension, because it doesn't "handle corners" as well. Well.... Duhh... it's an SUV. It's not supposed to. In dynamic mode, it handles corners and curves MUCH better than I expected it to. Absolutely ZERO complaints from me. If the X5M and the X5M50i were the exact same price... I would STILL get the X5M50i. It's just a better, more useable, more purposeful vehicle.
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So you're not going to track a 6 figure car and you're surely not going to track an SUV. So who is buying the full "M" SUV ? Someone in Texas racing their kids down the highway? |
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That said if you've the means to own an X5M, you've probably something a little more car like that would be better suited to driving on the track. As for someone tracking a $100,000 car, go out to a PCA track day, more than a few at that value there. |
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Not even.... the Renault Espace F1??
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