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Owners with Android might want to consider this workaround Jay shared. I use this method and it works great.
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01-14-2021, 02:59 AM | #24 |
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I don't get all these workarounds. What use-case do they satisfy?
If you are going anywhere you can take a phone with you, then you can also stick a keyfob in your pocket too, and open the door without doing anything else, and no faff starting the car either? Keep your key and phone in pocket, then drive! The keyfob trumps the phone in all scenarios I can think of. The watch is a different matter. If you are visiting a lake or gym with covid restrictions, then lockers might not be available. Keeping your key with you at all times on your wrist, even in scenarios where a phone is nor practical such as swimming/surfing, then the watch will work. Even then starting the car will be a big hassle with the watch, and in that scenario the standard waterproof keycard works best. In summary, IMO, at this stage, the DigitalKey isn't much practical use. Keyfob or NFC keycard works best. I guess it would be handy to have the key on phone/watch as a backup, but am I missing something? |
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Good question. Here are my two use cases:
1. I have incompatible iPhone and Apple Watch; I cannot use the digital key feature yet. I also don't want to carry around key fob (personal preference, minimalist, keyless life), therefore keeping it at the back of a wallet style phone case works for me. 2. (Indirect use case) NFC signal is very short range. Copying that signal by using booster for the purpose of relay attack is less likely. My ultimate wish is to use only Cellular Apple Watch for outdoor trips (no key fobs, no phone). Don't know if the current sensor will work with Ultra Wide Band. Currently, it's not very convenient to bring the watch near the wireless charger (NFC receiver), doable though.
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Wouldn't need to be cellular though, and would need to work with the watch/phone without power but still secure. |
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01-14-2021, 12:55 PM | #27 |
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I also got very excited when this feature was introduced and thought it would be made available to our 02/2020 build. but the current implementation is still more unwieldy than just the key fob itself. Hopefully soon they can bring all of the proximity functionality of the key fob to the phone
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01-14-2021, 03:30 PM | #28 |
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Maybe this is the future https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsu...-android-auto/
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Re-reading IFR's post on Digital key 1.5 and Smart Access 1.5
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1742346 It would seem even with the new Samsung S21+ or S21 Ultra now having Ultra Wide Band (UWB) capabilities; my 11/2019 build stills lacks the hardware updates BMW introduced in production vehicles built after late July 2020 that supports the new digital key protocol. Well at least I'll have a new phone and an older X5 with a lot more features than I could buy in X5 4.0i today; hopeful the options removed in 2021 builds will be back by trade in time. Last edited by ddelX52019G05; 01-14-2021 at 04:23 PM.. |
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Workaround disrupt wireless charging?
Regarding the "digital key in the phone case" workaround, might that disrupt wireless charging? It doesn't feel like the card is metal, so probably not.
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1. iPhone 2. plastic case to hold the phone 3. lather cover attached to the case above 4. Digital card slides into a pouch pocket 5. lather cover to hold the card above 6. wireless charger surface I noticed it gets warm sometimes when the battery charge is low and it needs charge from low percentage.
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Bumping an old thread here...
I've jumped on this, as my parents just bought a 2020 Z4 which has the Digital Key Classic listed in the registered services of the BMW Connect App. I've been on the phone to BMW UK and was told that there was some form of update available which would allow this to work with their iPhones. I was then told that they needed to get this authorised by the dealer (who didn't do it as part of the handover) and a security code - the dealer was clueless about this. I was also told that the car had version 1.0 of the Digital Key but some form of software upgrade to version 1.5 was available, once a security code had been allocated... I'm losing the plot with it - I've getting conflicting messages from everyone at BMW I speak to. I nearly had it confirmed by someone else at BMW UK today, that the car did indeed have all the correct software on it which is required for this, but I was cut off. The guy I spoke to straight after this informed me that this had been pulled, the car was manufactured too early for it and it would never support it. After being mis-informed by what appears to be every single person I've spoken to at BMW UK (and an also very clueless salesman at the dealer where they bought the car) I'm at a total loss for what support is offered for their car (which is only a few months short of iPhone support for this, frustratingly). Can anyone confirm if this has actually had a software update (citing ifr here) since last year? Because I was within half-an-inch of finding out that the car did indeed have all the correct equipment and software onboard, before I was cut off... Annoyingly, I couldn't even file a complaint about getting such chaotic information from the BMW ConnectedServices support desk because I'm not the registered keeper of the car - one person didn't seem to care, the next person (in their escalation department) did. This is a nightmare! |
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Bumping old thread.
But wondering what is different to this "new" announced feature : https://bmwi.bimmerpost.com/forums/s....php?t=1879953 What is difference with the feature that they removed and worked with my samsung s10. Why only for samsung S21 or google pixle and im some countries. Anybody with an android phone already has the new version working on a X5 ? |
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with the ultra wide band you can keep the phone in the pocket... |
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I used it before it came to iPhone, you had to put the phone in the tray to start. then you could remove it |
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The point I was making is that you do not need to have wireless charging for it to work. |
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Did some research the reason it is working with some select phone models, is a new feature in android 12 to store the key I think There should be an android 12 beta for S10 soon, Il'try it when it is out. |
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