[Flying Ace]

7.4 kw charger, 85hp bump from the battery, more torque, 40 miles of EV range. Trifecta, this is the best PHEV on the market today in combination of driving dynamics, style, and efficiency, all under $100k

Porsche, Audi, MB cannot compete

[JK479]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

For over 40 years it has been my wife's nickname for me, she thought I walked too slow.

Aww that’s very cool. Congrats on a successful marriage brother.

[Chonkapotamus]

Originally Posted by rundeyvoo

The changes doesn't excite me. I'm so glad I took delivery of the pre-LCI model.

Ditto. Would have really liked the bigger battery and faster charging in the e50, but not at the cost of $7,000 extra, that dopey grin on front, more glass touch panels and fewer buttons, and no laser headlights. I only regret not finding a way to get one in 2022 before the tax rules changed.

[bono]

Owners of pre-LCI G05... we know that you are happy with your vehicles and you are happy that you didn't wait for LCI... but who cares? Thousands other people will buy LCI version. No need to get reassurance about your great decision from others.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by JerZBMerLife

Agree with you. I was really looking to jump into an X7 but now might consider the X6 LCI. I really like what BMW did with the update.

If you need 3 rows- I think the x5 bucket is coming back. Does the x6 have that option?

X6 might be a nice rarer bird out there too…

[LPTyler]

I think it looks great, I really like the interior. I’m not much of an SUV guy, but if I was I would want one of these.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by White340

Buy the 45e while you still can. You won’t notice the extra power unless you drive like an asshole all the time. As it is I try to maximize electric mileage which means I hardly drive it in sport. I have my m3 for that kind of fun.

OK Boomer

[rundeyvoo]

In the BMW press release for the new X5 and X6 it says:

The electric range of the new BMW X5 xDrive50e is 94 – 110 kilometres (58 – 68 miles) in the WLTP cycle.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...the-new-bmw-x6

How realistic is the WLTP range?

[bmwauug]

This is helpful (scroll down with the diagram):

https://www.bmwblog.com/2023/02/07/2...-specs-photos/

[kjx]

Man...

The good
- Front bumper design is good.
- The steering wheel is very good.
- The interior leather and seats look very good.
- Drivetrain improvements sound quite good, especially in the 50e.

The okay, meh stuff
- The iD8 dash integration is not bad given the additional size of the dashboards in the X5+ cars.

The bad
- The headlights look like they are defective by design. Like a car with cataracts or something.
- The tail lights look okay but the size makes it look obese instead of sleek like pre-LCI.
- Lack of the crystal stick shift is a bummer.

Wasn't planning to anyway, but invokes zero desire to upgrade from the 45e to the 50e given:
- mixed bag of changes with nothing overly compelling. Especially missing iD shortcut buttons and physical AC controls.
- increased pricing.
- higher interest rates (mine's locked in at 0.9%)
- zero federal tax credit. (out of the AGI limit, will exceed MSRP limit with options, etc.)

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by rundeyvoo

In the BMW press release for the new X5 and X6 it says:



https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...the-new-bmw-x6

How realistic is the WLTP range?

Not realistic at all. For example, for the 45e the current WLTP range is 54 miles and it is only 31 for the US.

[rundeyvoo]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Not realistic at all. For example, for the 45e the current WLTP range is 54 miles and it is only 31 for the US.

Ahh got it, thanks for that Turtleboy.

[apw2607]

I like it. Doesn’t look that different and don’t get the obsession with the headlights and lack of clicky buttons for the climate system. How often do you fiddle with the buttons FFS.

Its different enough and has added value to make older x5 owners come back and get another one, and new shoppers look at a x5 over the competitors.

[MattTheCarNut]

German configurator is up.

[PandaSPUR]

The headlights are growing on me, when the main beams are off, the emitters practically disappear. Gives it a mean look IMO

[TheBingoBalls]

Only BMW trait that's left with these cars is the grille and the Hofmeister Kink. Angel eyes are officially dead. Very sad.

[HMN]

Definitely an upgrade. However I still cannot get over the idea of BMW reducing the gap between M cars and M performance cars.

[bmwauug]

BUILD SITE: https://www.bmw.com/en-au/models/x-s...owroom/x5.html

[Gadgetluva]

Originally Posted by atl_1M

Patiently waiting to see m sport version of the x5

Also, big price hike on the 50e compared to outgoing 45e (not too surprising given upgrades but still). Will require you to limit options to qualify for federal tax credit.

Last year I had guessed that the 50e would be a $10-12k increase over the 45e, mostly due to the loss of the 7500 tax credit. Turns out the difference is over $14k. Glad I got my 2023.

[bmwauug]

Don’t like the black under the grill

[bmwauug]

Originally Posted by HMN

Definitely an upgrade. However I still cannot get over the idea of BMW reducing the gap between M cars and M performance cars.

Agreed - similar to AMG (53/63), Audi (S/RS), Porsche S/GTS/GT)

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by HMN

Definitely an upgrade. However I still cannot get over the idea of BMW reducing the gap between M cars and M performance cars.

With the push for 100% carbon free by 2035, it seems like they're trying to slowly whittle down the number of ICEs they have to produce/maintain/update. I get the same feeling from MB/AMG. Not sure about Audi.