05-02-2023, 10:44 PM | #45 |
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The average commute in the USA is about 30-miles. The 50e's approximately 40-miles leaves a buffer for most. Giving them the option to go all electric, or use the ICE for longer trips. The 50e has a bigger buffer than the 45e, so that's good and makes it more useful to more people.
IMHO, it is what it is. Bigger batteries weigh more, which means lots of things need to be heavier duty to handle it, which means that your energy use will go up as it takes more energy to move the thing up to speed, and regeneration can never recover as much as goes in to move it in the first place. There's a lot of good reasons for more range on a BEV, but it's more of a decreasing benefit on a PHEV. But even on a BEV, there's a place for thigs like a smaller vehicle with enough range for a bit more of a city car. I'd have kept my i3 and ICE, but when my 45e got more range, my normal uses were easily covered by that on electricity, and since the ICE rarely got driven, it made more sense to swap them out for the PHEV. Not everyone's use case will be the same. If you can do your normal stuff day-to-day with the available battery capacity, with the PHEV is a good choice today. That is, unless your electric costs are sky high like they are some places. THen, maybe some solar panels might make some sense! |
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05-03-2023, 03:36 AM | #47 |
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05-03-2023, 06:43 AM | #50 |
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thanks for the link. I spoke with Roman at Enel X. I was concerned about the JuiceNet home dashboard (online website) going away when the EV JuiceNet app is decommissioned. my load sharing group is set up through that dashboard, and from the feedback I got about the Enel X Way app a few months ago, the load sharing program was not yet ready on that platform (which was another reason I didn’t switch). Roman confirmed the lack of support. if I did switch, they would’ve moved me back, which is why EV JuiceNet remains active past the original April deadline to switch. the Enel X Way app developers don’t have a date when load sharing support will be ready, so until then, I stay with the EV JuiceNet app and JuiceNet home dashboard. |
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05-03-2023, 08:28 AM | #53 |
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So, another owner in my Facebook 50e group ran the BMW CarData report on his newly purchased 50e and confirmed that the usable battery capacity in the US is only 20 kWh! That’s only 68% of the net capacity (29.5 kWh) while 45e actually has it at 71%! Unbelievable! Hauling all this extra weight and not being able to use over 30% of it!
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05-03-2023, 08:36 AM | #54 | |
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As far as most people traveling 30 miles daily to work, that is definitely not the case around NYC, and I doubt that is the case near LA and many other metro areas. Many people around me travel 40 miles one way to get to work, so every extra mile you can get out of this battery is a big plus. Sticking to the 80% usable capacity target will increase electric only range another 8 - 9 miles per charge, getting us over 50 miles of electric only range. |
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05-03-2023, 09:58 AM | #56 |
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Look at the 50e specs at the bottom of the press release:
https://www.bmwusanews.com/newsrelease.do?id=4104&mid= |
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The press release also says "40 mile range." I usually average 1.9 to 2 miles per kwh when running in Electric Only mode so the advertised range of 40 miles would equate to a 20 kwh battery. |
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05-03-2023, 11:09 AM | #60 | |
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So, 25.7 kWh is the advertised usable capacity. The CaraData report shows usable capacity - they can't hold back anything from it. |
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I don’t quite understand why BMW removed BATTERY CONTROL. “forcing” less use of fossil fuels seems they’re forcing an agenda |
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