S65 and methanol injection

[Redd]

I think people - very few - have been doing methanol injection with S65 engine since 2012 with the Procede kit. Now that methanol injection is mainstream and even the M4 GTS comes with it from factory, I'd like to find out everyone's thoughts about doing it for the S65. I'd especially like to hear from the E9x M3 owners who were doing it 3-4 years ago. How have those cars carried on since then.

Thanks.

[Lucrecio84]

Originally Posted by Redd

I think people - very few - have been doing methanol injection with S65 engine since 2012 with the Procede kit. Now that methanol injection is mainstream and even the M4 GTS comes with it from factory, I'd like to find out everyone's thoughts about doing it for the S65. I'd especially like to hear from the E9x M3 owners who were doing it 3-4 years ago. How have those cars carried on since then.

Thanks.

I've been running the Alchy Meth system on my M since I supercharged it. I'm running it for cooling and have it spraying into the intake manifold. The best observation I can give is that for the most part, the car runs more consistently than not having meth. Because of the cooling, I am also able to run an extra 1/2lb of boost. I would recommend it!

[Redd]

Originally Posted by Lucrecio84

I would recommend it!

Thanks for that. How long have u been running it? Any of the long term effects like methanol damaging plastic/metal bits inside the engine that some people are concerned about?

[pbonsalb]

M4 comes with water injection not methanol though they cannot prevent you from mixing some in.

I have been running a Vishnu Procede with 70/30 meth/water for 3-4 years, which for me is 24-32k miles. No issues. I have had the air filter housing off and the intake manifold off and noticed no issues.

[Redd]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I have been running a Vishnu Procede with 70/30 meth/water for 3-4 years, which for me is 24-32k miles. No issues.

Are you supercharged? How long does one tank of water/meth last at track?

[Cidle]

I had the Proceed kit since mid 2011 on my supercharged setup no issues as of yet.

Sent one kit to Shanghai last month so yes I still recommend it.

BTW, kit has been out of production for almost 2 years

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by Redd

Are you supercharged? How long does one tank of water/meth last at track?

I am NA and my car is a street car. How much you use depends on your nozzles. I have two 1mm nozzles, which is probably 20% to fuel injected, and starts at around 40% fuel njector duty cycle and follows duty cycle to ramp up flow. I use about 1 gallon every 3 tanks of gas. If I tracked my car, it might be 2 gallons in one tank of gas. Just guessing. I could probably do some math to estimate but you are best off finding someone who is tracking.

[cmo_93]

What Gains are to be seen here?

Not necessarily whp but maybe quarter times?

[pbonsalb]

Its about like having a 100 octane tune. 10 rwhp over 93 on a NA car? Might allow 1 more psi on an SC car or 20 rwhp?

Less performance drop in hot weather.

[cmo_93]

ehhhh...not sure it's worth it then

[Cidle]

In my case if memory correct, gained 30 RWHP with just meth flowing alone. For $1600 back in the day, totally worth it to me.

Add in a few degrees of timing up top, peaked to about 80. Not streetable power way up in the upper rev range but it was what it was....

[Redd]

Originally Posted by cidle323

BTW, kit has been out of production for almost 2 years

Sigh. I was going to come into a Procede controller cheap, but would still need to purchase a new meth kit. Looks like it might be a dead end then. Thanks all for the feedback!

[Cidle]

Originally Posted by Redd

Sigh. I was going to come into a Procede controller cheap, but would still need to purchase a new meth kit. Looks like it might be a dead end then. Thanks all for the feedback!

There are options bud,

The parts in the meth kit are Aquamist supplied by Jeff at Howerton Engineering. He can help you out, used him several times. Also possible to use a Aquamist kit to the Procede

[Redd]

Originally Posted by cidle323

There are options bud,

The parts in the meth kit are Aquamist supplied by Jeff at Howerton Engineering. He can help you out, used him several times. Also possible to use a Aquamist kit to the Procede

Great! I will check them out!

[R_lara]

Pics of intall or none of this is true.

What charger kit are you runing and where are you spraying?

[S65M]

Been using Alchy Meth system in conjunction with my Gintani kit and absolutely love it. running 100% meth for a couple of months now not a single issue what so ever, car runs cooler & pulls extremely hard once meth starts to spray.