Quality of Akrapovic exhaust?

[Apex Everything]

What is the forums opinion on the quality of Akrapovic exhaust?

I thought it was top of the line, but I have heard some friends who work in the car industry say their build quality is crap.

I might be buying a slip on exhaust from them in the next 4 months, but not if they cant live up to the price they charge.

Opinions?

[Amirsm3]

I mean, it's titanium. It's definitely not worth it if you're going from the raw materials standpoint.

Listen to the system online and at car meets, then check out the mufflers and see if the welding and bends are to your liking. Go from there.

[roastbeef]

Uuh, build quality is top notch.

[Sellout]

Akra build quality is basically second to none.

I mean, it's titanium. It's definitely not worth it if you're going from the raw materials standpoint.

Not exactly the most accurate assessment I've ever seen. It's a titanium alloy that is much better suited to exhaust system duty than the typical over-priced titanium crap you see from some of the manufacturers.

[BzsBimmer]

But Akra sells it like it's made of Unobtanium.
I'd agree that they build some high quality stuff. Even when buying used, I haven't seen or heard of welds breaking unlike the MPE, however, the materials are different and BMW seems to have a design issue (now resolved hopefully).

~Coming from a previous EVO owner

[dparm]

"If it's expensive, it must be good"

When will this meme end?

[BzsBimmer]

Originally Posted by dparm

"If it's expensive, it must be good"

When will this meme end?

When people speak with their wallets by shopping elsewhere
SAY NO TO BEING ///M TAXED

[cenix]

I don't have an Akrapovic exhaust but I have seen them for our cars and other cars in person. They are probably one of the finest built exhausts I've seen.

A lot of talk about the M tax markup but generally speaking, price correlates to R&D and quality and this is true for Akrapovic.

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by dparm

"If it's expensive, it must be good"

When will this meme end?

Probably right around the same time that people stop assuming that anyone who understands the actual quality of an expensive piece is just a shill who thinks anything expensive is high quality.

But Akra sells it like it's made of Unobtanium.

Akra knows how much people pay for Ti systems that aren't nearly as high quality. They charge what people are willing to pay, and their systems are among the best you'll ever see. Compare them to the shitty japanese systems that cost every bit as much and crack/fall apart in the first year.

As for the ///M tax, in the case of an Akra system, it's non-existent. Akra is expensive for a reason. All their systems are expensive. Building one for the ///M crowd didn't change that.

[MFL]

Everything is amazing. There are better sounding exhausts, few yield the gains or the weight savings.

[burnrbr]

I have the akro evo. I took it off to do my rear subframe bushings. The welds are amazing, it's super light and shows no signs of age even with 30k + miles on it.

[Amirsm3]

Originally Posted by Sellout

Akra build quality is basically second to none.



Not exactly the most accurate assessment I've ever seen. It's a titanium alloy that is much better suited to exhaust system duty than the typical over-priced titanium crap you see from some of the manufacturers.

Raw material standpoint. There's probably 20 dollars in titanium there (facetious)

I was being semi-facetious in my earlier post, lol.

Worth is ultimately what you're willing to pay for an item. Retail MSRP, Akra can fuck themselves if they think I'm gonna pay 8k for a titanium exhaust.

[MVEED3]

Akrapovič is a boutique exhaust tuner with lots of history in motorcycle and automotive motorsport. Check out their website or Google up on their manufacturing process.

I've had Akra on a couple bikes as well as my last M3 over many miles/years with zero failure. I will continue to use this brand as long as the particular application sounds impressive. I've learned recently that Akra isn't as magical as I initially thought. The F80 M3/M4 proved too horrendous to correct.

[Amirsm3]

Originally Posted by MVEED3

Akrapovič is a boutique exhaust tuner with lots of history in motorcycle and automotive motorsport. Check out their website or Google up on their manufacturing process.

I've had Akra on a couple bikes as well as my last M3 over many miles/years with zero failure. I will continue to use this brand as long as the particular application sounds impressive. I've learned recently that Akra isn't as magical as I initially thought. The F80 M3/M4 proved too horrendous to correct.

My buddies run their slip ons on their bikes so I've heard of 'em before. I was pleasantly surprised to see they were so popular on multiple car platforms.

[MVEED3]

Originally Posted by Amirsm3

...they think I'm gonna pay 8k for a titanium exhaust.

They gotta keep their precision machinery serviceable as well as cover all related costs to meet demands in a timely manner. I haven't been to their manufacturing plant but I'm sure I'd have a boner while walking through the joint.

[AP3X_FTW]

I think they make a beautiful product, but I personally prioritize sound when it comes to my exhaust purchases. This is not to say that I am okay with sacrificing quality or workmanship, but I am not going to spend a premium for Akra when I think it sounds mediocre. I have never understood the craze with Akra, other then the fact that I could stare at it on a garage floor. Many if not all aftermarket options will reduce weight back there, albeit not quite as much as the Akra Ti system (and I am okay with that).

I have had numerous exhaust setup's that sounds leagues better then Akra, and they are typically half the cost. Sound is subjective, and I understand their may be differing opinions out there

[shimmy23]

^ amen. feel the same way.

[Sellout]

Raw material standpoint.

There's your problem. The raw materials in an iphone aren't worth $12, but people are willing to go into debt to buy one.

Silly examples aside, you don't have to be willing to spend the money on an Akra system to understand that they developed their own titanium alloy, own a foundry, etc. We're not talking about the same metal that other titanium systems are made from. Akrapovic knows that titanium is a terrible metal to make an exhaust system out of, which is why they went to the lengths they did to come up with the alloy that they came up with. This is one of the reasons why people who have seen an Akra system fail are few and far between.

[Amirsm3]

Originally Posted by Sellout

There's your problem. The raw materials in an iphone aren't worth $12, but people are willing to go into debt to buy one.

Silly examples aside, you don't have to be willing to spend the money on an Akra system to understand that they developed their own titanium alloy, own a foundry, etc. We're not talking about the same metal that other titanium systems are made from. Akrapovic knows that titanium is a terrible metal to make an exhaust system out of, which is why they went to the lengths they did to come up with the alloy that they came up with. This is one of the reasons why people who have seen an Akra system fail are few and far between.

You make it sound like T304 Stainless fails more often.

[mboob]

I recently picked up a slip-on and it's build quality is top notch. It may not be 100% worth the price, but it's pretty close. If you can pick one up used, then it's certainly worth the slight premium.

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by Amirsm3

You make it sound like T304 Stainless fails more often.

Nobody but you has mentioned stainless, but since you did, it's worth mentioning that an akra system is every bit as reliable as the best stainless system on the market, but weighs less.

No other Ti systems are that reliable.

That's what I'm getting at.

[Datka]

I got akra muffler to save some weight. The build quality is outstanding.
If you feel that its too expensive brand new(which i think it is), you can always buy it used.