Soft top question

sonicbimmer19 · 09-16-2011, 09:26 PM

Hey all,

I have a 128i convertible and I always thought the soft top was fabric so I've been treating it with fabric cleaners and fabric repellents but when I was going through accessories on BMW website, I found out that BMW Soft-Top Care Products package includes "Vinyl Care"
Is that just for interior vinyls but just included in soft top package or is that for the soft top?
More straight question would be, is BMW soft top fabric or vinyl?

"BMW Soft-Top Care Products
Original BMW Care Products offer you the right products to care for and protect your soft-top. Cleanses soil resulting from usage and environmental conditions, such as tree sap. It is recommended that you treat your soft-top with the appropriate agent after each cleansing so it can continue to bear up to the elemets.
Soft-Top Care Kit contains: Vinyl Care, Soft-Top Cleanser, Car Wash Shampoo, Repellent, and Treesap Remover."

AlpineVert · 09-21-2011, 01:13 PM

I've had my 135 vert for almost 3 months and water was still beading from the factory seal. But I did just do two coats of RaggTop sealer after washing last weekend.

That's probably the stuff you want to get.

Greg@DetailedImage · 09-22-2011, 11:05 AM

Many fabric and vinyl surfaces are best cleaned by the same exact products. For example the 303 Cleaner & Spot Remover for fabrics and vinyl is the same exact product as the 303 Convertible Top Cleaner, just labeled differently and the Raggtopp Convertible Top Cleaner - Fabric and Vinyl Tops is labeled accordingly. So in short you have a fabric top still and the cleaners can care for both. If you have any other questions please let me know.

Greg @ DI

sonicbimmer19 · 09-22-2011, 04:00 PM

thanks guys!

pj.rodriguez · 06-28-2013, 03:40 PM

Okay so I understand that the RaggTopp cleaner is good on both fabric and vinyl, but what about a protectant? With RaggTopp, there is a vinyl protectant and a fabric protectant. Which will work for our tops?

TOGWT · 06-29-2013, 06:29 AM

These are not vinyl or canvas, but a laminate consisting of several components, a top layer of a solution-dyed acrylic textile, a middle layer of butyl rubber or urethane, and the poly-cotton headliner.

The Haartz Corp (acquired Rode & Schwalenbert that was established for 105 years) the world leading manufacturer of automobile convertible tops exclusively recommends Wolfsteins Pro-Series Developed specifically for cleaning, re-proofing and preserving convertible tops, these cleaning kits consist of two products RaggTopp ™ Cleaner and RaggTopp ™ Protectant

TOGWT® Autopia Detailing Wiki Article - “Convertible (Roadster) Top Detailing” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...detailing.html

TOGWT® Autopia Detailing Wiki Articles, these informational resources contain everything you’ll ever want to know about automotive detailing and are an invaluable addition to your detailing knowledge base -. http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...yperlinks.html

pj.rodriguez · 07-04-2013, 08:17 AM

So, which RaggTopp protectant do we use for our tops, since there are two different kinds?

TOGWT · 07-05-2013, 04:26 AM

Series RaggTopp ™ Fabric Cleaner and RaggTopp ™ Fabric Protectant - were developed specifically for cleaning, re-proofing and preserving convertible tops, fabric tops should be cleaned and retreated every three to six months, these cleaning kits consist of two products:

Although the fabric does not promote mildew growth by itself, mildew may develop with the combination of moisture and dirt and/ or other foreign substances that are not removed. This is especially true in warm, humid, dark environments. A program of keeping the fabric clean through regular washings, before it gets dirty, will enhance the life and beauty of the acrylic and make successive cleaning easier.

litebulb · 07-05-2013, 04:29 AM

I use 303 products; Fabric convertible top cleaner and fabric guard. I'm very happy with the results.

jester17 · 07-08-2013, 09:20 AM

I know we have a NeverWet thread here, but I didn't see there any references to people using NeverWet on their vert. tops... anyone here had experience with that? Seems like a perfect solution...

jester17 · 11-28-2013, 04:23 PM

BUMP! Anyone used Neverwet on their vert. top?

Jmoney · 12-02-2013, 01:08 PM

I have always used Swissvax Lotus on my aunt's 330ci and it still beads PERFECTLY!

http://www.swissvax.us/merchant.mvc?...NVERTIBLE-CARE is the link and you can also buy this from scheerdetailing.com

09-16-2011, 09:26 PM	#1
sonicbimmer19 Lieutenant 72 Rep 487 Posts Drives: E88 and F32 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (1)	Soft top question Hey all, I have a 128i convertible and I always thought the soft top was fabric so I've been treating it with fabric cleaners and fabric repellents but when I was going through accessories on BMW website, I found out that BMW Soft-Top Care Products package includes "Vinyl Care" Is that just for interior vinyls but just included in soft top package or is that for the soft top? More straight question would be, is BMW soft top fabric or vinyl? "BMW Soft-Top Care Products Original BMW Care Products offer you the right products to care for and protect your soft-top. Cleanses soil resulting from usage and environmental conditions, such as tree sap. It is recommended that you treat your soft-top with the appropriate agent after each cleansing so it can continue to bear up to the elemets. Soft-Top Care Kit contains: Vinyl Care, Soft-Top Cleanser, Car Wash Shampoo, Repellent, and Treesap Remover."
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09-21-2011, 01:13 PM	#2
AlpineVert New Member 1 Rep 25 Posts Drives: 2012 135i vert Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	I've had my 135 vert for almost 3 months and water was still beading from the factory seal. But I did just do two coats of RaggTop sealer after washing last weekend. That's probably the stuff you want to get.
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09-22-2011, 11:05 AM	#3
Greg@DetailedImage 125 Rep 3,515 Posts Drives: clean and protected Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Many fabric and vinyl surfaces are best cleaned by the same exact products. For example the 303 Cleaner & Spot Remover for fabrics and vinyl is the same exact product as the 303 Convertible Top Cleaner, just labeled differently and the Raggtopp Convertible Top Cleaner - Fabric and Vinyl Tops is labeled accordingly. So in short you have a fabric top still and the cleaners can care for both. If you have any other questions please let me know. Greg @ DI
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09-22-2011, 04:00 PM	#4
sonicbimmer19 Lieutenant 72 Rep 487 Posts Drives: E88 and F32 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (1)	thanks guys!
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06-28-2013, 03:40 PM	#5
pj.rodriguez Lieutenant Colonel 84 Rep 1,623 Posts Drives: Alpine White 128i Cabrio Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada iTrader: (9) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i E88 [9.00]	Okay so I understand that the RaggTopp cleaner is good on both fabric and vinyl, but what about a protectant? With RaggTopp, there is a vinyl protectant and a fabric protectant. Which will work for our tops?
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06-29-2013, 06:29 AM	#6
TOGWT Captain 11 Rep 770 Posts Drives: 630i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL / London, UK iTrader: (0)	These are not vinyl or canvas, but a laminate consisting of several components, a top layer of a solution-dyed acrylic textile, a middle layer of butyl rubber or urethane, and the poly-cotton headliner. The Haartz Corp (acquired Rode & Schwalenbert that was established for 105 years) the world leading manufacturer of automobile convertible tops exclusively recommends Wolfsteins Pro-Series Developed specifically for cleaning, re-proofing and preserving convertible tops, these cleaning kits consist of two products RaggTopp ™ Cleaner and RaggTopp ™ Protectant TOGWT® Autopia Detailing Wiki Article - “Convertible (Roadster) Top Detailing” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...detailing.html TOGWT® Autopia Detailing Wiki Articles, these informational resources contain everything you’ll ever want to know about automotive detailing and are an invaluable addition to your detailing knowledge base -. http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...yperlinks.html
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07-04-2013, 08:17 AM	#7
pj.rodriguez Lieutenant Colonel 84 Rep 1,623 Posts Drives: Alpine White 128i Cabrio Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada iTrader: (9) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i E88 [9.00]	So, which RaggTopp protectant do we use for our tops, since there are two different kinds?
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07-05-2013, 04:26 AM	#8
TOGWT Captain 11 Rep 770 Posts Drives: 630i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL / London, UK iTrader: (0)	Series RaggTopp ™ Fabric Cleaner and RaggTopp ™ Fabric Protectant - were developed specifically for cleaning, re-proofing and preserving convertible tops, fabric tops should be cleaned and retreated every three to six months, these cleaning kits consist of two products: Although the fabric does not promote mildew growth by itself, mildew may develop with the combination of moisture and dirt and/ or other foreign substances that are not removed. This is especially true in warm, humid, dark environments. A program of keeping the fabric clean through regular washings, before it gets dirty, will enhance the life and beauty of the acrylic and make successive cleaning easier.
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07-05-2013, 04:29 AM	#9
litebulb Captain 68 Rep 627 Posts Drives: '09 E88 135i M-Sport/6MT/SGM Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i Cabri ... [10.00]	I use 303 products; Fabric convertible top cleaner and fabric guard. I'm very happy with the results. __________________ \| Dinan S2=>MHD \| e46 M3 trans mounts \| Dinan CF CAI \| ER CP \| HKS SSQV4 BOV \| RB PCV Valve \| VRSF DP \| N55 MP \| BMW PE \| OC \| VRSF 7" FMIC \| UUC Evo3 SSK \| EBC GD Sport Rotors \| EBC Redstuff \| TRW F+R \| \| Whiteline KDT918 \| H&R Front Sway \| BMWP 313 \| MPSS 225/255 \| Scopione CF Rear Diffuser \| iCarbon CF Rear Spoiler \| P3 v2.1 Gauge \| Interior LED Retrofit \|
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jester17 First Lieutenant 50 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 2009 E93 M Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Elizabethtown, PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	I know we have a NeverWet thread here, but I didn't see there any references to people using NeverWet on their vert. tops... anyone here had experience with that? Seems like a perfect solution...
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11-28-2013, 04:23 PM	#11
jester17 First Lieutenant 50 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 2009 E93 M Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Elizabethtown, PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	BUMP! Anyone used Neverwet on their vert. top?
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12-02-2013, 01:08 PM	#12
Jmoney Private First Class 11 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 2012 135i BSM/CR Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	I have always used Swissvax Lotus on my aunt's 330ci and it still beads PERFECTLY! http://www.swissvax.us/merchant.mvc?...NVERTIBLE-CARE is the link and you can also buy this from scheerdetailing.com __________________ 2012 LeMans Blue Metallic 135i Coupé - SOLD 2013 Mineral Grey Metallic 335i Sedan - Returned 2012 Black Sapphire Metallic 135i Coupé Still keeping it classy with a Clutch..
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